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Aug 29, 2010 20:34
I realise this current Pakistani team is not that good but I can’t stop wondering if this scandal has something to do with the abysmal showing of the Pakistan team in this Test series.
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Aug 30, 2010 00:27
What disappoints me most about the scandal is the absolute rubbish being spouted by Pakistan supporters.
On Cricinfo's FB page they are claiming it is all a conspiracy from the English media and it is racism which I think is absolute bollocks.
When I read that I thought they are seriously in denial and a few sandwiches short of a picnic.
They claim it is England whingeing because they can't cope with Pakistan's supposedly superior bowling attack.
Maybe these clowns supporting Pakistan should be venting their anger towards their own cricket governing body instead of making excuses for them.
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Aug 30, 2010 15:38
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What disappoints me most about the scandal is the absolute rubbish being spouted by Pakistan supporters.
On Cricinfo's FB page they are claiming it is all a conspiracy from the English media and it is racism which I think is absolute bollocks.
When I read that I thought they are seriously in denial and a few sandwiches short of a picnic.
They claim it is England whingeing because they can't cope with Pakistan's supposedly superior bowling attack.
Maybe these clowns supporting Pakistan should be venting their anger towards their own cricket governing body instead of making excuses for them.
I hate to say this and there is no racism at all implied but Pakistan have been mired in controversy for a long, long time. If guilty, I hope the governing body come down really hard on them as I would if they were English.
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Aug 31, 2010 05:34
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What disappoints me most about the scandal is the absolute rubbish being spouted by Pakistan supporters.
On Cricinfo's FB page they are claiming it is all a conspiracy from the English media and it is racism which I think is absolute bollocks.
When I read that I thought they are seriously in denial and a few sandwiches short of a picnic.
They claim it is England whingeing because they can't cope with Pakistan's supposedly superior bowling attack.
Maybe these clowns supporting Pakistan should be venting their anger towards their own cricket governing body instead of making excuses for them.
I hate to say this and there is no racism at all implied but Pakistan have been mired in controversy for a long, long time. If guilty, I hope the governing body come down really hard on them as I would if they were English.
I agree SW.
If that happened here in Australia, I'd be calling for Cricket Australia CEO James Sutherland's head.
In saying that though there's a story doing the rounds over here that Australian players Shane Watson and Brad Haddin could be involved.
If they are then I never want to see them wear the baggy green ever again and have Watson's Allan Border Medal stripped off him as well.
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Aug 31, 2010 08:26
Apart from agreeing with the general dismay that this could be happening in a professional sport, I also wondered how this is going to be taken back at home in Pakistan, especially bearing in mind the flooding, and widespread death and disease of the general population (who are cricket mad).
Seems amazing that these grubby cheats would be so keen to have their noses in the trough whilst friends and family are starving and dying at home - I imagine they will never play cricket for Pakistan again.
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Aug 31, 2010 23:57
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Apart from agreeing with the general dismay that this could be happening in a professional sport, I also wondered how this is going to be taken back at home in Pakistan, especially bearing in mind the flooding, and widespread death and disease of the general population (who are cricket mad).
Seems amazing that these grubby cheats would be so keen to have their noses in the trough whilst friends and family are starving and dying at home - I imagine they will never play cricket for Pakistan again.
They're going completely mental in Pakistan from all reports, Cadillac.
A lot of their fans are still claiming it's all a British conspiracy and racism but now it has emerged the offending players could be executed by hanging if they are found guilty by the Pakistan courts.
http://www.karachinews.net/story/678929
Seven Pakistani players, allegedly involved in the Lord's Test match-fixing scandal, are facing charges of high treason under Article 6 of the constitution, an offence punishable by death in the country.
It comes after a petition filed by Chaudhry Ishtiaq Ahmad, a lawyer, in the Lahore High Court requested to initiate proceedings against the cricketers.
According to The Daily Times, the petitioner stated that the players, by indulging in match fixing, had tarnished the image of the country.
"The players have seriously damaged the already-bad reputation of Pakistani players in the world of cricket and deserve severe punishment," the newspaper quoted Ahmad, as saying.
He insisted that all the accused players should be arrested on their return to Pakistan, adding that Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Chairman Ijaz Butt should also be included in the investigation.
In the most sensational sporting scandal ever, it has been claimed that Pakistan fast bowlers Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif had delivered three no-balls to order.
According to The News of the World, London-based agent Mazhar Majeed is the alleged man behind the 150,000-pound betting scam.
The tabloid claims that they have footage of Majeed accepting money, and in return, he detailed what would happen and when on the field of play next day.
It also claims that Majeed had identified Pakistan captain Salman Butt as the ringleader.
He also named wicket keeper Kamran Akmal, and a total of seven corrupt cricketers. (ANI)
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Sep 01, 2010 06:24
Well, death by hanging ought to take care of it, I suppose 
I was thinking more along the lines of national disgrace, banned for life kind of thing, but let the punishment fit the crime....
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Sep 01, 2010 06:26
http://www.cricinfo.com/england-v-pakistan-2010/content/current/story/475246.html
'Insufficient evidence' against Majeed, fears UK anti-corruption chief
Andrew Miller
August 31, 2010
The chairman of a UK commission set up to investigate the threat of gambling-related corruption in sport has told Cricinfo he believes there will be insufficient evidence for police to press charges against Mazhar Majeed, the alleged fixer who was caught on camera accepting money from an undercover reporter in a News of the World sting.
Rick Parry, the former chief executive of Liverpool Football Club, told Cricinfo's Switch Hit podcast that, despite a dossier of apparently damning evidence - including video footage of Majeed appearing to correctly predict the timing of three no-balls bowled by Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir during the first two days of the Lord's Test - the case was likely to flounder unless evidence of illegal betting activity was found to back up the claims.
"I don't think [the case] has any evidence at all," said Parry. "Unless the News of the World placed a bet - which would be highly unlikely because in so doing they would have carried out a criminal act - then there doesn't appear to be any betting activity at all associated with these particular allegations. It places the ball, to pardon the pun, squarely back into the hands of the cricket authorities."
Under the provisions of the Gambling Act 2005, which made cheating in sport for financial gain a criminal activity in the UK, it had been hoped that the very fact that these latest allegations had taken place in the country would help to carry them forward into the courts, and lead to a high-profile case that could act as a deterrent to others who might be tempted into similar wrongdoing.
However, Parry said that until such time that further evidence was unearthed, the greater onus would have to fall on cricket's governing bodies to live up to their promise, reiterated by the ICC's chief executive, Haroon Lorgat, on Monday, to take "prompt and decisive action" against anyone found guilty of match-fixing.
"The ICC is very much in the spotlight on this one, and so it can't afford not to [act]," he said. "When you see the publicity like we've had over the last couple of days, there can't be a single reason not to take the right action, because it's the reputation of the sport at stake, and nothing can be more important than that. Everyone connected with sport - participants and spectators - have a basic right to believe that sport is clean and that everyone is doing their best, because that goes right to the root of what's good about sport."
Parry did, however, credit the ICC for taking a lead among sporting governing bodies in attempting to police corruption its own issues, but added that more effort clearly needed to be put into the education of its young players, particularly in light of Amir's alleged involvement in the Lord's furore.
"I think one of the great sadnesses of all of this, and it's a widely held view, is that a great young talent like Amir has been implicated in this one," said Parry. "I think that's what perhaps separates this from many other cases, because it suggests that the bad guys got to him before the good guys did. One of the fundamental recommendations of our panel, along with disciplinary measures and sanctions, is that it's absolutely fundamental to have education processes in place, so that players and participants are taught from a very, very young age, first of all what the rules mean, so that there can be no excuses, and secondly that they are vulnerable to outside influences."
"To be fair to cricket, at ICC level they have taken very significant steps," he added. "They were one of the first sports to set up a proper integrity unit, in the wake of previous major issues such as Hansie Cronje scandal, so I don't think it can be said that the cricket authorities have done nothing. But in terms of educating the players, it could be that they've not done enough. It would have to be a shock that a talent that has broken onto the scene so very, very quickly is at the centre of all this.
"He'd have been enrolled in a cricket academy from a young age, and from the moment he shot to prominence with the international squad, you'd think that the Pakistan Cricket Board might have recognised a vulnerability and a need to put an arm around him. I can't imagine it would have been that difficult to do, because when you read of the sums involved in betting in the Far East - with up to $500 million on a single game - the temptation is potentially there for relatively lowly paid cricketers. It's beholden upon the authorities to step in and provide appropriate support systems."
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Sep 04, 2010 20:27
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They're going completely mental in Pakistan from all reports, Cadillac.
A lot of their fans are still claiming it's all a British conspiracy and racism but now it has emerged the offending players could be executed by hanging if they are found guilty by the Pakistan courts.
Jeez, this thing really is spiralling out of control. The Pakistani cricket team has been under some sort of scrutiny for cheating for as long as i've been following cricket. Nothing has ever really been proved, but the way Pakistans high commisioner Wajid Hasan has come out and said that they were set up is nearly laughable. Reminds me a little bit of the Iraqi propaganda minister being interviewed during the second Gulf war insisting that they were winning the war, all the while American tanks were charging along in the background.
I saw an interesting interview with Imran Kahn earlier, and after what the Pakistani people have had to put up with recently he said this has really just demorilised them. Kind of like the straw that broke the camels back.
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May 16, 2012 10:14
Right, thought I'd resurrect the cricket thread as the 1st Test against the Windies starts tomorrow at Lords...
AND I'M GOING!!!!
After waiting a long time to get tickets in the ballot I finally got 2 tickets so I'm taking my son to the match. We're leaving this morning to take in the tour of Lords this afternoon, a few scoops tonight in 'that London' and then off to the ground at 9am tomorrow.
As for the match, well we should win as the Windies aren't the greatest oppostition and we have a good home record, but this is England so who knows?
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May 22, 2012 02:36
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Right, thought I'd resurrect the cricket thread as the 1st Test against the Windies starts tomorrow at Lords...
AND I'M GOING!!!!
After waiting a long time to get tickets in the ballot I finally got 2 tickets so I'm taking my son to the match. We're leaving this morning to take in the tour of Lords this afternoon, a few scoops tonight in 'that London' and then off to the ground at 9am tomorrow.
As for the match, well we should win as the Windies aren't the greatest oppostition and we have a good home record, but this is England so who knows?
How was the cricket SW?
The parts I saw it looked like England were trying to make a meal of it (back to the bad old days) but they got there in the end.
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May 29, 2012 08:34
Well done England beating The Windies yesterday. I was going to pop down to Trent Bridge for the final day but alas something else cropped up. England footballers take note in how to be the Worlds Number 1 
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Jun 24, 2012 15:58
West Indies 63 runs off of 4 overs. Close of innings West Indies 174-4.
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Jun 29, 2012 15:10
Anyone else watching the ODI v Australia should be a decent score from England, 3 overs to go and we are 238-4. 
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Jun 29, 2012 15:21
I usually watch the highlights & that innings from Morgan will definitely be worth a look. 
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Jun 29, 2012 15:24
272-5 decent score Morgan 89 not out. Lets see how the Aussies come back at us
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Jun 29, 2012 15:30
Yes a decent score, should be enough.
We also need Yorks to beat Lancs in the T20 tonight.
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Jun 29, 2012 15:32
Haven't done a Roses game for far too long.
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Jun 29, 2012 16:10
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Yes a decent score, should be enough.
We also need Yorks to beat Lancs in the T20 tonight.
No we don't.
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Jun 29, 2012 21:52
An England win, our Antipodean friends are in for a long summer
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