bogdan
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May 05, 2012 19:39
Pity that Dons screwed up their last game of the regular season and have put themselves in a position to play their second leg against Hudds away. Would have thought Stevenage not to be much of a bother in the playoffs, but the red part of Sheffield has finished with 2 points in 3 games, and will be without Beattie from now on, as he saw a straight red today.
It's anybody's guess what's going to happen in League One, me thinks.
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Pecky10
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May 05, 2012 19:51
bogdan
Pity that Dons screwed up their last game of the regular season and have put themselves in a position to play their second leg against Hudds away. Would have thought Stevenage not to be much of a bother in the playoffs, but the red part of Sheffield has finished with 2 points in 3 games, and will be without Beattie from now on, as he saw a straight red today.
It's anybody's guess what's going to happen in League One, me thinks.
Only heard it on the radio and not read any match reports but Five Live thought he got red for pro foul rather than a bad tackle and they concluded he would thus only sit out one game ban.
But I agree, not sure anyone can predict what will happen in the L1 play-offs!
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bogdan
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May 05, 2012 19:52
Does it make a difference though, I thought a straight red was a straight red with same punishment, regardless of what you got it for? 
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PockWhite
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May 05, 2012 19:53
bogdan
Does it make a difference though, I thought a straight red was a straight red with same punishment, regardless of what you got it for?
Straight red fro pro foul is one game, for violent conduct it's 3 games. 
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bogdan
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May 05, 2012 19:55
Interesting, still learning the rules of this quaint game called football, apparently.  Thanks.
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PockWhite
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May 05, 2012 19:57
bogdan
Interesting, still learning the rules of this quaint game called football, apparently. Thanks.
Can you please explain the offside rule to me??  
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Barlow Boy
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May 05, 2012 20:05
PockWhite
bogdan
Interesting, still learning the rules of this quaint game called football, apparently. Thanks.
Can you please explain the offside rule to me??
Just asked the Mrs to explain it to me, and apparently the player is offside when he is stood in an offside position.
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bogdan
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May 05, 2012 20:12
Barlow Boy
Couldn't someone tell him to move back into a non-offside position (don't know if there is a name for that)?
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bogdan
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May 06, 2012 01:09
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Less than 14,000 in attendance for semi-final to the Premier League. Astonishingly poor.
Just seen the highlights from the playoff semis. Crickey, you weren't kidding, Brum had about 7 fans, each stood on their own. Genuinely pathetic support, I don't think the away end was half full and many of them were sat in groups of 2-3.
Saw quite a fair few empty seats at Cardiff too (in the home sections). How to games like this not sell out, regardless of club?
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Bigsocks
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May 06, 2012 08:35
bogdan
Pecky10
Less than 14,000 in attendance for semi-final to the Premier League. Astonishingly poor.
Just seen the highlights from the playoff semis. Crickey, you weren't kidding, Brum had about 7 fans, each stood on their own. Genuinely pathetic support, I don't think the away end was half full and many of them were sat in groups of 2-3.
Saw quite a fair few empty seats at Cardiff too (in the home sections). How to games like this not sell out, regardless of club?
Well it was on TV and the weather was cold and Blackpool is a dive.. Think if i had a free ticket i would choose to stay and home with a few tins and a warm fire and watch on TV. But yea was a poor showing from them.
Just hope they dont go up, really really dont want them to go up! I'll never hear the last of it I dont want them to go up so much, i even bet them to go up at 4/1 yesterday. so if they do at least something good will come out of it.
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dlw10
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May 06, 2012 10:34
bogdan
Pecky10
Less than 14,000 in attendance for semi-final to the Premier League. Astonishingly poor.
Just seen the highlights from the playoff semis. Crickey, you weren't kidding, Brum had about 7 fans, each stood on their own. Genuinely pathetic support, I don't think the away end was half full and many of them were sat in groups of 2-3.
Saw quite a fair few empty seats at Cardiff too (in the home sections). How to games like this not sell out, regardless of club?
It is ridiculous that clubs with such tiny grounds and support are fighting to join the English elite. Had it been Leeds in the position of having a home play-off semi final we all know it would be packed to the rafters with 39,000 in there...and many more locked outside! It is at times like this that I sometimes think the Premier League must be praying for a return for Leeds....they should perhaps just invite us in! Sadly, and thankfully for the good of competition, we have to put together a team that will win sufficient matches to get us there according to the rules! It can't be much longer though...can it?
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Pecky10
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May 06, 2012 12:23
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It is ridiculous that clubs with such tiny grounds and support are fighting to join the English elite.
This might take us into a new discussion altogether but in the old days, there were standards that had to be met for playing in each division, I think there must still be some, especially for entering the football league from the conference, but maybe clubs should apply for a "licence" to play in the Premier League, based upon facilities etc?
It's completely ridiculous that a Premier League club can have a ground with a capacity lower than 20k. I must have missed it when Blackpool went up last time (or maybe got a bit giddy-kipperish at the thought of the likes of Arsenal and scum having to go play there) but 16k capacity is not fit for Premier League grounds.
There used to be criteria of capacity, facilities and, um, lighting (for instance  ) for each tier so why is that not applied anymore? I remember clubs not being granted licence to enter the Fourth Division based on their ground so how has it come that the "best league in the world" lets in any tin pot club?
Even in relatively recent times, I'm *aware* of clubs who have been fined for not having the right floodlights for their division and yet a club whose ground holds around half of all the others is allowed to be in the Premier League.
Is it me???
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Pecky10
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May 06, 2012 12:37
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PockWhite
bogdan
Interesting, still learning the rules of this quaint game called football, apparently. Thanks.
Can you please explain the offside rule to me??
Just asked the Mrs to explain it to me, and apparently the player is offside when he is stood in an offside position.
Honestly, you boys.....
You're in the Leeds United superstore and second in the queue for the till. Behind the shop assistant on the till is the last (new) Leeds shirt which you must have.
The shopper in front of you has also seen it and is eyeing it with desire. You have forgotten your wallet and you have only the cash for the LUFC peppermints you hold in your hand. It would be totally rude to push in front of the other man if you had no money to pay for the shirt. The shop assistant remains at the till waiting.
Your mate is at the back of the shop and sees your dilemma. He prepares to throw his wallet to you.
If he does so, you can catch it, then walk round the other shopper and buy the shirt. At a pinch he could throw the wallet ahead of the other shopper and, *whilst it is in flight* you could nip around the other shopper, catch it and buy the shirt.
Always remembering that until the wallet had *actually been thrown* it would be plain wrong to be forward of the other shopper.
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dlw10
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May 06, 2012 12:52
Pecky10
dlw10
It is ridiculous that clubs with such tiny grounds and support are fighting to join the English elite.
It's completely ridiculous that a Premier League club can have a ground with a capacity lower than 20k. I must have missed it when Blackpool went up last time (or maybe got a bit giddy-kipperish at the thought of the likes of Arsenal and scum having to go play there) but 16k capacity is not fit for Premier League grounds.
Is it me???
No it's not you...this time! If you remember Blackpool only had a capacity of something like 12 or 13 thousand at the end of their last Championship season. They had to build a new stand to increase the capacity and they had to postpone their first few home games whilst it was completed!
being a Worcester City supporter as well as Leeds, Worcester have suffered in the past by not having a ground suitable for the Football League so missed out on promotion from non league. BTW in passing did everyone spot that Hereford have been relegated back to non league football! That is the best news a Worcester City fan can get other than their own team being promoted! Just one division below the nearby Bulls now!
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Pecky10
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May 06, 2012 13:03
dlw10
BTW in passing did everyone spot that Hereford have been relegated back to non league football!
I did and inwardly cheered, though not for the same reasons as you (surely that's tantamount to giddy-kipper status?) but because back in 1997 there was a last-day-of-the-season face off between Brighton (my employers at the time) and Hereford. Winner stays in the league. Brighton cease to exist if they lose.
Hereford made it all ticket about two weeks before the game; we told them about 2 months before to make it all ticket but they refused; they were the most unprofessional people I've ever dealt with, so they deserve to be in the pits of the league as far as I'm concerned
As for the game, Hereford took the lead through an own-goal scored by the Brighton born-and-bred (been at the club since he was 11) left back. Brighton equalised with about fifteen minutes to go through THE Robbie Reinelt. Kept me in a job.
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bogdan
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May 06, 2012 13:44
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I'd hate to see that happen, myself. I know I moan small teams and that, but there is a charm to the unpredictability of some of the more minor clubs being promoted (I just don't want them to spend enough time up there to get bored ). But the licensing system can only be more of a competition killer, surely? Just look at what it's done of the top two tiers of rugby league.
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Pecky10
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May 06, 2012 14:05
bogdan
Pecky10
I'd hate to see that happen, myself. I know I moan small teams and that, but there is a charm to the unpredictability of some of the more minor clubs being promoted (I just don't want them to spend enough time up there to get bored ). But the licensing system can only be more of a competition killer, surely? Just look at what it's done of the top two tiers of rugby league.
I don't mean in quite the same way as RL but surely there should be some enforcement of minimum standards?
Clubs in the past have been denied entry to the Football League on account of their grounds but clubs with such low capacities can enter the Premier League? I know of some clubs who have been fined and had sanctions threatened on grounds of the pitch lighting levels, but I suppose that lack of equilibrium is just another indictment of how the football authorities these days only care about armchair spectators and not real football fans.
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May 06, 2012 18:26
Conference North next season for Bradford Park Avenue as they beat FC Scum 1-0 in the Evo Stick Final today.
Not a good day for the red side of manchester today
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May 07, 2012 13:43
West Ham v Cardiff later on. Come on The 'Ammers
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May 07, 2012 14:31
Pecky10
bogdan
Pecky10
I'd hate to see that happen, myself. I know I moan small teams and that, but there is a charm to the unpredictability of some of the more minor clubs being promoted (I just don't want them to spend enough time up there to get bored ). But the licensing system can only be more of a competition killer, surely? Just look at what it's done of the top two tiers of rugby league.
I don't mean in quite the same way as RL but surely there should be some enforcement of minimum standards?
Clubs in the past have been denied entry to the Football League on account of their grounds but clubs with such low capacities can enter the Premier League? I know of some clubs who have been fined and had sanctions threatened on grounds of the pitch lighting levels, but I suppose that lack of equilibrium is just another indictment of how the football authorities these days only care about armchair spectators and not real football fans.
The Premiership attracts huge audiences in world wide coverage plus an incredible amount of generated income so I agree that perhaps some criteria regarding the state & size of grounds could be introduced.
This season alone we have been to the likes of ex Prem teams in Pompey, Burnley & Blackpool, all of which have pretty poor facilities particularly for the away fans.
Also it is not unreasonable to expect a certain level of comfort when paying such high prices to watch football in the Premiership.
The FL have regulations for teams coming into the league & Rugby Union have strict criteria for teams in the Premiership so maybe it is something that should be looked at.
Teams would still be promoted on merit but they would have to ensure their grounds meet a certain standard.
The RL idea is a very different concept, it was badly conceived & if I am not mistaken it barred any club from gaining promotion for a couple of years.
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