johnh
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Jul 02, 2012 18:20
On numerous occasions I have seen LU past players referred to as 'Legends'. Some, I have never heard of! I think the term is over-used and therefore devalued. I think of legends in terms of what influence they have had on the club and what they have achieved. In my view true legends are Don Revie, John Charles, Billy Bremner and Bobby Collins. These are all people who made a significant difference to Leeds United as well as being big players and big personalities.
Closely followed by Jack Charlton, Johnny Giles, Paul Reaney, Paul Madeley Eddie Gray, Norman Hunter, Albert Johanneson.
I cannot think of any player in the last 20 years who can make the list.
I am sure that there are fellow posters who disagree with me and I would be interested in having your views.
Regards to all.
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18longleeds
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Jul 02, 2012 18:24
I would say Lucas Radebe 11 years he spent here since moving from the chiefs, he was one of the best Centre backs in England during his time playing.
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isrodger
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Jul 02, 2012 18:43
Legend for me Revie, Charles, Bremner and Eddie Gray maybe Giles & Hunter... Although of you could make a case for most of the Revie boys... Of litter day stars I had a great fondness for batts.
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Jul 02, 2012 18:43
I agree the term "legend" is oft overused, I would go along with your choices John & maybe adding Gordon strachan & believe it or not Vinnie Jones.
A Chelsea fan that I know regards John Terry as a legend, I told him he means Leg End
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sheepy
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Jul 02, 2012 19:25
This is a good topic, especially if try and decide what makes someone a legend. For me a legend does not have to be a great player, but he need to have passion for the club, loyalty, be a good role model and a good ambassador for the club and sport.
So aside from the obvious ones that have been mentioned I would say Andy Hughes is a good shout from the recent era.
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birkybullufc
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Jul 02, 2012 20:28
I think fans of different generations will have differing opinions on which players are classed as legends as the influence those players have in their eyes will differ on what they have seen or experienced. For instance,when I first started watching Leeds there was one player who was head and shoulders above the rest. John Sheridan. For me, he is a Leeds Legend and it was just a shame he didn't play at Leeds for longer.
Surely the title winning side of 91/92 must be classed as legends as they brought the title to Elland Road for the only time since the Revie era. Lukic, Sterland, Dorigo, Fairclough, Whyte, Strachan, Batty, McAllister, Speed, Wallace, Chapman, Cantona, Newsome, McLelland, Hodge, Kamara, Shutt all played a part in this. Some may not quite qualify as club legends but all their names will go down in history.
The teams that got to two european semi-finals will also live long in the memory along with the matches they played in.
The changing face of footballl and the high turn over of players these days means that the number of legends is on the wain.
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Socrates
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Jul 02, 2012 21:17
Birkbully FC is spot on: John Sheridan is a legend and was my favourite player!
Gutted when he left.
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NottinghamWhite
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Jul 02, 2012 21:38
The real LUFC Legends are John Charles and most of The Revie Era. Billy Bremner will always be up there for me as the all time number 1 but closely followed by Big Jack a World Cup winner and a regular in the Leeds team for nearly 17 years.
Since the Revie Era few if any players can ever be called Legends, great players yes but Legends no. Modern day players have their agents and always looking for the next club with their signing on fees and inflated wages. Look at The Revie Lads most qualified for a testimonial because they gave their career to the club.
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Mr Russell
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Jul 02, 2012 21:45
NottinghamWhite
Since the Revie Era few if any players can ever be called Legends, great players yes but Legends no. Modern day players have their agents and always looking for the next club with their signing on fees and inflated wages. Look at The Revie Lads most qualified for a testimonial because they gave their career to the club.
Agree with the highlighted bit there, very hard to call any player after the Revie period a legend but we have had plenty of great players since then. I was always a fan of Tony Currie and he was a great player but could not put him in the legend bracket, same for Gordon Strachan, David Batty, Gary Speed etc etc.
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NottinghamWhite
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Jul 03, 2012 11:29
At the end of the day age plays a great part in all of this, for instance I never think of John Charles as a Legend, although undoubtedly he is, because I never saw him play. A lot of the Revie lads do qualify, Bremner, Lorimer ( it's a shame he has blotted his copy book of late), Gray, Madely, Reaney, Cooper, Charlton, Hunter, Jones and Clarke. If you never saw these lads play then obviously you can only go on who you have seen.
The obvious omission is Gary Sprake who sold his sole for 30 pieces of silver and thus his Legendary status is lost.
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sheepy
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Jul 03, 2012 12:41
No shout outs for Paul Connolly then 
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Jul 03, 2012 12:46
NottinghamWhite
At the end of the day age plays a great part in all of this, for instance I never think of John Charles as a Legend, although undoubtedly he is, because I never saw him play. A lot of the Revie lads do qualify, Bremner, Lorimer ( it's a shame he has blotted his copy book of late), Gray, Madely, Reaney, Cooper, Charlton, Hunter, Jones and Clarke. If you never saw these lads play then obviously you can only go on who you have seen.
The obvious omission is Gary Sprake who sold his sole for 30 pieces of silver and thus his Legendary status is lost.
Maybe it's just me but when I think of that great Revie era I think of David Harvey as the keeper even though I know Sprake was the number 1 for much longer.
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sheepy
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Jul 03, 2012 12:50
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The real LUFC Legends are John Charles and most of The Revie Era.
This weekend we had a massive clearout from the spare room that we use as the HQ for www.badgeunion.com
I found hidden away underneath some clutter a glossy print of John Charles shaking hands with Don Revie before a Leeds v Sunderland match. Not only was that quite exciting, I recall asking my then girlfriend (now wife) if she could get it signed (her uncle knew John Charles quite well). As I blew away the dust there it was, the great mans signature!
Its now rightfully taking pride of place 
How the hell could I forget I had that?
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Jul 03, 2012 12:56
sheepy
No shout outs for Paul Connolly then
I had a suggestion in mind, but if you lot are prepared to dismiss outright anyone from the modern era, I guess George McCartney will have to be content with merely the title of best left back to ever appear in a Leeds defence that let in 6 goals against Preston.
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sheepy
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Jul 03, 2012 13:12
Amazingly the said George 'I'd rather play Paul' McCartney is a premiership footballer 
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NottinghamWhite
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Jul 03, 2012 13:13
MartinC
Maybe it's just me but when I think of that great Revie era I think of David Harvey as the keeper even though I know Sprake was the number 1 for much longer.
I think if you ask anyone who was Leeds number one keeper most will say Sprake. GS on his day could be brilliant or drop some right clangers. Have just looked him up and he only made 381 appearances for Leeds, half that made by the likes of Jack Charlton. I remember during his spell at Leeds that he was known as someone who was a bit of a big head, in total comparison to David Harvey who I met in Bewleys Hotel after The Don Revie Dinner who was so quiet and unassuming.
I was at Anfield when Sprake fumbled the ball into the back of the net and The Kop singing "Careless Hands " might have been 1967/8 can't really remember.
Harvey's under study was David Stewart who played in goal in the 1975 European Cup Final. Another goalkeeper who was a top player.
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Jul 03, 2012 13:19
A footnote on Gary Sprake he was in a car crash in 1975 which resulted in a near fatal blood clot and was forced to retire at 30. His biography was called Careless Hands, at least he had a sense of humour.
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birkybullufc
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Jul 03, 2012 13:31
I would think Radebe would qualify as a Leeds Legend otherwise he wouldn't be my avatar.  To still have his name sung at every game long after he retired shows in how high a regard he is held.
He has just been confirmed as the new South Africa boss too.
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Jul 03, 2012 13:37
birkybullufc
I would think Radebe would qualify as a Leeds Legend otherwise he wouldn't be my avatar. To still have his name sung at every game long after he retired shows in how high a regard he is held.
He has just been confirmed as the new South Africa boss too.
He was awesome, but saw this tweet earlier from Simon Walton which made me laugh:
Simon Walton @SimonWalton8
And as nice as 'The Chief' was, he still kicked the shit out of anybody in training!! #Radebe
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johnh
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Jul 03, 2012 13:48
I did say that no one in the last 20 years would qualify for 'legend' status. I was wrong, and I agree about Lucas Radabe.
A post said that Gary Sprake had a reputation as a big head. I don't know about that as I never met him. What I do know is that I played in the Leeds Sunday league for Leeds United Supporters Club team in the 1960's and Gary Sprake used to turn up Sunday mornings to watch most games, even on the remotest of park pitches.
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