Re: Brexit - Yes or No? - Poll added
Posted: 06 Jun 2016, 12:09
First of all, kudos to Mellor for such an in-depth analysis.
Secondly, I have been to the UK a couple of times but if there are people here who think that I’m not eligible to constructively comment on BREXIT as not being a Brit - I absolutely respect their approach. I wouldn’t like a bloody foreigner to comment on my country’s affairs either!
Thirdly, sorry for a post longer than I first expected.
My opinion as an Eastern European on this matter is clear - the UK must remain in the EU. I suspect that in the West it may not be as appreciated as it should but Europe has the longest stint of peace in her history. And the main reason behind it is that there is no old-fashioned military and economic competition between European nations. We are, in a way, working for our European welfare together. In other words – it’s highly unprofitable to make war with a business partner. And let it stay like this as long as possible, because when we return to the old ways who knows what can happen in the future. Maybe one day somebody again will claim that one race or ideology is better than all the others? I know it sounds far-fetched but we have experienced that in Poland, twice, and we definitely don’t take freedom or peace for granted.
I am also fully aware what you may think - that I'm only concerned for the job market for me and my compatriots when it comes to BREXIT. Well, I'm not, because I firmly believe that if there was no economic reason behind opening the job market for Eastern Europeans, they wouldn't have been allowed to work in the UK. And I am absolutely confident that when EE immigrants are no longer profitable to the general economy of the UK, therefore no longer being hired, they will be gone. They are here for money only; they’ve got places where they can return to if the money’s gone. The problem lies elsewhere IMHO. There is a constant stream of illegal immigrants coming to the UK which doesn’t seem to dry up and has nothing to do with the EU. They can’t/don’t want to go back to where they came from as residing in the UK is a benefit per se for them. These people never integrate with the society, they never form any relationship with the country they are in, they don’t contribute to communities (them falling apart is one of the biggest problem in the UK, that’s what I’ve heard from my English friends) and they don’t pay taxes doing undeclared work. Moreover, as unwanted, they remain in a natural, psychological opposition to the party which “unwants” them - the state, which “helps” with their alienation, radicalization, etc. which leads to ghettos, terrorism and so on and so forth. Catch 22. Why are the illegals allowed in I was wondering not so long ago?
The answer came unexpectedly when I watched an episode of Traffic Cops on youtube. Without going into too many details, the police caught guys on a motorway, took them to the police station, ensured that they’re all right and… let them go, informing them that they should report to Immigration on a certain day. Surprisingly, they didn’t. I’ve recently heard that the UK is going to introduce a border control Australia style. I say – finally. You need to have full control over people you let into your country as guests, UK or not. (Did I sound Trump? ) When you get the immigration factor sorted and focus turns to the main reason behind the Union: profitability, it may become clear that the EU needs the UK and vice versa. I simply can’t imagine that the UK is losing out on being a member of the EU.
PS
Not to mention the fact that Europe needs English folk. Who else would marry all those Eastern European women? I know four chaps who are happily married like that, one is an obsessed LUFC supporter
MOT, over and out!
Secondly, I have been to the UK a couple of times but if there are people here who think that I’m not eligible to constructively comment on BREXIT as not being a Brit - I absolutely respect their approach. I wouldn’t like a bloody foreigner to comment on my country’s affairs either!
Thirdly, sorry for a post longer than I first expected.
My opinion as an Eastern European on this matter is clear - the UK must remain in the EU. I suspect that in the West it may not be as appreciated as it should but Europe has the longest stint of peace in her history. And the main reason behind it is that there is no old-fashioned military and economic competition between European nations. We are, in a way, working for our European welfare together. In other words – it’s highly unprofitable to make war with a business partner. And let it stay like this as long as possible, because when we return to the old ways who knows what can happen in the future. Maybe one day somebody again will claim that one race or ideology is better than all the others? I know it sounds far-fetched but we have experienced that in Poland, twice, and we definitely don’t take freedom or peace for granted.
I am also fully aware what you may think - that I'm only concerned for the job market for me and my compatriots when it comes to BREXIT. Well, I'm not, because I firmly believe that if there was no economic reason behind opening the job market for Eastern Europeans, they wouldn't have been allowed to work in the UK. And I am absolutely confident that when EE immigrants are no longer profitable to the general economy of the UK, therefore no longer being hired, they will be gone. They are here for money only; they’ve got places where they can return to if the money’s gone. The problem lies elsewhere IMHO. There is a constant stream of illegal immigrants coming to the UK which doesn’t seem to dry up and has nothing to do with the EU. They can’t/don’t want to go back to where they came from as residing in the UK is a benefit per se for them. These people never integrate with the society, they never form any relationship with the country they are in, they don’t contribute to communities (them falling apart is one of the biggest problem in the UK, that’s what I’ve heard from my English friends) and they don’t pay taxes doing undeclared work. Moreover, as unwanted, they remain in a natural, psychological opposition to the party which “unwants” them - the state, which “helps” with their alienation, radicalization, etc. which leads to ghettos, terrorism and so on and so forth. Catch 22. Why are the illegals allowed in I was wondering not so long ago?
The answer came unexpectedly when I watched an episode of Traffic Cops on youtube. Without going into too many details, the police caught guys on a motorway, took them to the police station, ensured that they’re all right and… let them go, informing them that they should report to Immigration on a certain day. Surprisingly, they didn’t. I’ve recently heard that the UK is going to introduce a border control Australia style. I say – finally. You need to have full control over people you let into your country as guests, UK or not. (Did I sound Trump? ) When you get the immigration factor sorted and focus turns to the main reason behind the Union: profitability, it may become clear that the EU needs the UK and vice versa. I simply can’t imagine that the UK is losing out on being a member of the EU.
PS
Not to mention the fact that Europe needs English folk. Who else would marry all those Eastern European women? I know four chaps who are happily married like that, one is an obsessed LUFC supporter
MOT, over and out!