jjrgreeney wrote:Mellor wrote:dlw10 wrote:Mellor wrote:We employ Diouf. The day we signed him was the day the club ceded the right to the high moral high ground (IMO). I trust he moves on at seasons end.
Hall is disposable. Made a fool of himself on twitter (assuming this is the offence).
Ross is (apparently) essential. Made an even bigger fool of himself on twitter (IMO).
I really hope we are not about to see LUFC enter the world of double standards previously occupied by the likes of Liverpool (Suarez), any club (Barton), England (Shearer) etc.
The club should keep all players off twitter - they all (almost without exception) embarrass themselves and the club at some point.
Young lad sees his dream collapsing and makes stupid remark. He's been tweeting for months. No surprise he said sommat daft in the end.
Hall's done wrong but others have done worse. Ritual hanging to be avoided. Bloke's just collateral damage from a shocking managerial appointment.
Can't agree with that first line. Warnock employed Diouf after a long chat when both parties appologised for previous words and actions. It is a bit like saying you should never employ a convicted criminal once he has served his sentence! Everyone deserves a second chance once the price is paid. Diouf was also a great player for us last year and may well be again if given the opportunity. Sure, he has made the odd miscalculation while with us - the infamous "man handling" springs to mind. But even so. If someone is constant trouble you do have to let them go and there are transgressions that are unforgiveable (drug taking in sport) but on Diouf I think he was well worth his second chnce
Everybody does deserve a second chance (Hall for one) - depends what you've done mindst. Diouf happens to have had a skip load. A constant reminder of our lowest ebb. Warnock and Diouf. Hopefully both will be history next season. Hall's crime - naivity (unless there's more to come out). Hall just seems like a soft target?
difference is diouf has come up with the goods on the pitch and in training and from the looks hall has done neither. regardless of his crime he should be showing it in training and banging on the managers door for a chance not putting petty tweets out
How can he do it in training if he isn't good enough, as seems likely? Is there any suggestion that he hasn't tried to impress!
Ross got worse the more he tweeted. Post contract he was mostly a weak link. Good game Saturday fortunately.
Will agree to differ on Diouf's contribution to our efforts. Not sure what kind of wage he's on but the manager clearly doesn't think a great deal of him so, like Hall, it's too much. Not a lot of game time. For me the manager took against him when he lost it on the crutch issue - not much in itself but an unnecessary reminder of the bloke's personality - and of course he sees that no team with Diouf in it will ever move from defence to attack at speed. Goal 4 on Sunday impossible with Diouf involved I think. Looking back to players like Diouf - a bloke who has wasted his talent - was never the way to build a team for the future.
Anyway, my point remains, anyone who can stomach Diouf shouldn't find it too difficult to live with Hall's small (at this stage) misdemeanour. Ask any footballer what the worst crime is - they'll all answer spitting not tweeting.
Interesting to see how it unravels now. Hall will be down the road at some point I expect.