we'll see mate, I was thinking you were meaning that Everton players get less chance with Englandrigger wrote:Another Northern Soul wrote:And why would the move stunt his England career?
Because he won't be playing CL football.
The hierarchy of clubs definitely influences who's picked for England squads, and yet further, the actual team.
There's no way the likes of Smalling, Jones and Wes Brown would've won as many caps playing for a club outside the top four.
Phil Neville - another versatile player - made the same move in 2005 and his England career tailed off to nothing over the next eighteen months.
I'm not saying Delph isn't any good - I think he's an ideal squad member at a tournament because he's used to being on the bench and can play all over the park - but I'm sure he'll be less likely to be in the frame now he's left the spotlight of the Champions League.
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I actually think Southgate sees through the big club thing more than most because he himself got capped whilst at Palace, Villa and Boro.
Okay, that's a bit harsh on Villa, but you know what I mean.
If he's picking players from Bournemouth he can't be too biased about it all, can he ?
Wait, I'm contradicting myself here
Okay, that's a bit harsh on Villa, but you know what I mean.
If he's picking players from Bournemouth he can't be too biased about it all, can he ?
Wait, I'm contradicting myself here
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rigger wrote:I actually think Southgate sees through the big club thing more than most because he himself got capped whilst at Palace, Villa and Boro.
Okay, that's a bit harsh on Villa, but you know what I mean.
If he's picking players from Bournemouth he can't be too biased about it all, can he ?
Wait, I'm contradicting myself here
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Everton already provide the England goalkeeper and a centre-back.Another Northern Soul wrote:we'll see mate, I was thinking you were meaning that Everton players get less chance with Englandrigger wrote:Another Northern Soul wrote:And why would the move stunt his England career?
Because he won't be playing CL football.
The hierarchy of clubs definitely influences who's picked for England squads, and yet further, the actual team.
There's no way the likes of Smalling, Jones and Wes Brown would've won as many caps playing for a club outside the top four.
Phil Neville - another versatile player - made the same move in 2005 and his England career tailed off to nothing over the next eighteen months.
I'm not saying Delph isn't any good - I think he's an ideal squad member at a tournament because he's used to being on the bench and can play all over the park - but I'm sure he'll be less likely to be in the frame now he's left the spotlight of the Champions League.
I once played against Don Revie.
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And also England's weakest area, ironically.rigger wrote:I know, John.
But midfield is pretty competitive.
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Sam Byram gone to Norwich for 750,000 .. what happened to him so highly rated when at Leeds !
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Lots leave and never reach the standard we as fans expect they will, you just never know with young players.Daz5 wrote:Sam Byram gone to Norwich for 750,000 .. what happened to him so highly rated when at Leeds !
Only played 33 games in 3 seasons.
Still not doing too bad he'll be playing Prem this season.
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Personally I think we saw the best of himDaz5 wrote:Sam Byram gone to Norwich for 750,000 .. what happened to him so highly rated when at Leeds !
Might have to take an interest in the Premier League now....
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And at the time quite a few were saying we had let a player go on the cheap that would be worth millions in the future. Something we hear often but doesn't always happen.mapperleywhite wrote:Personally I think we saw the best of himDaz5 wrote:Sam Byram gone to Norwich for 750,000 .. what happened to him so highly rated when at Leeds !
Do we have a clause that gets us any of the cash ?
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