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Re: Radrizzani

Posted: 31 May 2019, 12:34
by Another Northern Soul
isrodger wrote:
Another Northern Soul wrote:Praising Cellino for improving the club's finances is like praising a man for chopping his own foot off to save on shoe bills.
Please explain ? Revenue increased significantly whilst costs were brought under control as witnessed by the annual accounts. Lost revenue streams mortgaged off by Bates were brought back under the clubs control. Whilst it’s acceptable to say you didn’t like the man or his methods I think your factually incorrect.

BTW how’s the socialist cooperative of LFU going on? Anyone got their money back yet? Like all socialist movements they ran out of other people’s money didn’t they? :thumbdown:
Erm, why are you asking me that? Bring it on if you want to get personal! I'd like my money back, seeing as you're asking, though it wasn't much.

Numerous and costly court cases & compensation thanks to him is hardly sound financial management :lol: Shoddy treatment of personnel, Thorp Arch rotting away thanks to him, all rank behaviour, not to mention nepotism and a gang of cronies with worrying 'habits' bringing more shame on the club.

Re: Radrizzani

Posted: 31 May 2019, 13:09
by isrodger
Another Northern Soul wrote:
isrodger wrote:
Another Northern Soul wrote:Praising Cellino for improving the club's finances is like praising a man for chopping his own foot off to save on shoe bills.
Please explain ? Revenue increased significantly whilst costs were brought under control as witnessed by the annual accounts. Lost revenue streams mortgaged off by Bates were brought back under the clubs control. Whilst it’s acceptable to say you didn’t like the man or his methods I think your factually incorrect.

BTW how’s the socialist cooperative of LFU going on? Anyone got their money back yet? Like all socialist movements they ran out of other people’s money didn’t they? :thumbdown:
Erm, why are you asking me that? Bring it on if you want to get personal! I'd like my money back, seeing as you're asking, though it wasn't much.

Numerous and costly court cases & compensation thanks to him is hardly sound financial management :lol: Shoddy treatment of personnel, Thorp Arch rotting away thanks to him, all rank behaviour, not to mention nepotism and a gang of cronies with worrying 'habits' bringing more shame on the club.
And despite that the revenue increased costs reduced, and revenue streams were brought back in house - yes or no? As I said ... you might note like the fella, his methods the fact he had a coke habit, knocked around with that homosexual fella,and he was mad as a box of frogs - nor did I ... but he improved our finances post GFH / Bates as witnessed by the statutory accounts.

Re: Radrizzani

Posted: 31 May 2019, 13:16
by Another Northern Soul
isrodger wrote:
Another Northern Soul wrote:
isrodger wrote:
Another Northern Soul wrote:Praising Cellino for improving the club's finances is like praising a man for chopping his own foot off to save on shoe bills.
Please explain ? Revenue increased significantly whilst costs were brought under control as witnessed by the annual accounts. Lost revenue streams mortgaged off by Bates were brought back under the clubs control. Whilst it’s acceptable to say you didn’t like the man or his methods I think your factually incorrect.

BTW how’s the socialist cooperative of LFU going on? Anyone got their money back yet? Like all socialist movements they ran out of other people’s money didn’t they? :thumbdown:
Erm, why are you asking me that? Bring it on if you want to get personal! I'd like my money back, seeing as you're asking, though it wasn't much.

Numerous and costly court cases & compensation thanks to him is hardly sound financial management :lol: Shoddy treatment of personnel, Thorp Arch rotting away thanks to him, all rank behaviour, not to mention nepotism and a gang of cronies with worrying 'habits' bringing more shame on the club.
And despite that the revenue increased costs reduced, and revenue streams were brought back in house - yes or no? As I said ... you might note like the fella, his methods the fact he had a coke habit, knocked around with that homosexual fella,and he was mad as a box of frogs - nor did I ... but he improved our finances post GFH / Bates as witnessed by the statutory accounts.
Carry on if you must with the financial stats, I wasn't disputing them, I would think most of his 'achievements' were to do with selling players and cutting costs at Thorp Arch which ruined the place. Now you please explain to me why you think getting (inaccurately) personal and offensive about LFU is anything to do with Radrizzani.

Re: Radrizzani

Posted: 31 May 2019, 13:50
by isrodger
So you accept Cellino did a reasonable job improving the bottom line, good I think it is more or less indisputable. An interesting debate not for here and now or you & I is would Bielsa have got the team Cellino left behind promoted?

I’m not getting personal about LFU however you did advocate support of the group and castigated Cellino for refusing to deal with them. Given they had no real capital and were a ridiculously highly leveraged buy out I really glad he didn’t. I’m sorry you lost money and genuinely can’t understand why what was an originally well intended group have failed to refund monies to ordinary working people.

Re: Radrizzani

Posted: 31 May 2019, 14:00
by Another Northern Soul
isrodger wrote:So you accept Cellino did a reasonable job improving the bottom line, good I think it is more or less indisputable. An interesting debate not for here and now or you & I is would Bielsa have got the team Cellino left behind promoted?

I’m not getting personal about LFU however you did advocate support of the group and castigated Cellino for refusing to deal with them. Given they had no real capital and were a ridiculously highly leveraged buy out I really glad he didn’t. I’m sorry you lost money and genuinely can’t understand why what was an originally well intended group have failed to refund monies to ordinary working people.
There's that word 'indisputable' again, the man was a crook and a liar and treated LU people like dirt. He HARMED the long-term of the club in the short-term with his neglect of TA for instance.

And I haven't lost money, and if you WEREN'T being personal then fair enough but I wouldn't like to see you when you do get deliberately antagonising :lol:

Re: Radrizzani

Posted: 31 May 2019, 14:13
by Davycc
OK sorry guys this is going nowhere and purely for selfish reasons I'm locking the thread.... :thumbup: