1. Yes they have gone to court and I have actually gone out of my way to find it since you attacked my character for no reason based on this. It was 2008 they ended up in court and Messi lost. The recent drama broke the internet so search terms will lead you to find nothing about it with basic searches if you try and search for Messi and Barcelona in court. I alluded to that. I have no idea why you would randomly decide I just made it up out of thin air and go researching on Google. perhaps that was a better explanation of you not being able to find anything about it and also an explanation of why I couldn't be bothered to go to the effort to find it.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-olym ... 4520080806
2. Why did we have to do that deal again? because the current deal expired due to suspension of the season and was no longer valid. Leeds didn't want to immediately take the option because we were uncertain of promotion so had to extend the deal otherwise Harrison would have missed the run in and would have gone back to city. All I said was City are charging an extra 2-3 million which is basically just a loan fee. That was obviously agreed verbally by the clubs in June as the transfer window couldn't open and FA were allowing clubs keep their loans. I just said clubs were within their rights to do so. Fresh deals had to be done just like the Leipzig situation and that is how every player and club interpreted the situation because FIFA remained silent on it.... and that is my point.
3. Augustin was on 90k at Leipzig. You are completely missing the point. I said they wanted to dump him over his big contract which they were still liable for. What he was on at Leeds is irrelevant. So you questioned my figures which are correct but you say I am wrong by stating completely irrelevant "facts"
3?. It has nothing to do with success. It is bout fans and culture. They have undermined the laws of the game and culture in Germany. The 50+1 rule in particular where they have cut fans out of the club where they only have 15-20 people with voting rights, all of them are coincidentally RB execs and staff. They charge 20 times more a year what other German clubs do to cynically achieve that while having no official way to become a voting member. Unheard of in Germany and completely goes against the ethos of football there and the 50+1 rules where fans must own a share. German fans whether big club and small boycott and protest them. They called themselves RasenBallsport Leipzig 'lawn ball sports Leipzig E.v'' to get around naming rules too so they could shoehorn their branding into their name, RB isn't actually Red Bull. They are completely untethered from football culture and any sense of the social function of football in Germany. They don't care and the Germans have gone to great lengths to maintain culture in their game and protect it from neoliberalism and the endless flow of dodgey foreign capital. They take it very seriously there to the point where football is an economics and philosophy discussion there at times. Whether I agree with the reasons for the hatred is irrelevant, it is the reality and those are the rules there. You said you knew nothing about Leipzig earlier but are obviously an expert now. Dortmund and Bayern just envy their success when they have won 0. sounds reasonable to literally protest them just because they are successful.
4. FIFA have already stated themselves... They have not been asked to intervene
A statement from FIFA said it had “no pending cases and (has) not been asked to intervene between RB Leipzig and Leeds regarding Jean-Kevin Augustin”. -Phil Hay
5. You said I made it up!! . Calling someone a liar is an ad hominem last time I checked.
Entirely and consistently wrong in all your points. Factually and easily researchable.
RBL are the ones who need a supplementary interpretation of the contract. The burden of proof is on them to prove Leeds caused an act of god in order to break a contract in the future that had already expired where Leeds had already fulfilled all their commitments within the contract. It will take a wizard not a lawyer.
RB will argue for a supplementary interpretation stating Leeds would have agreed these conditions at the time of making the contract and were in right mind while making the contract. But No club would have agreed to any date beyond the playoffs date as a suspension of the league would have meant economic uncertainty, so no such interpretation can be introduced. Their arguments will STRENGTHEN Leeds arguments. It would have created unfair burden on one party in the contract and paradoxically could have possibly allowed Leeds to break the contract theoretically. That argument will make them look like vultures who had Leeds by the shorts in January, not spirit of the game missionaries. It is a slam dunk and only FIFA suddenly changing their minds and declaring dates meaningless in football contracts which would be insanity on their part could lose Leeds this case. Leeds should and will hold firm and pay RBL a big 0 because they are 95%+ winning this case. It wont even drag on 2 years it would normally. Only Leeds could lose a case like this. The articles you are reading saying Leeds are going to have pay are probably laundered into the media by a big org like RB. They are garbage and intended to put pressure on Leeds and on FIFA. Get some outcry on social media from spirit of the game nonsense arguments to shame FIFA into breaking their silence on it and change their minds.
@ Selby White Apologies. I don't mean to clog up the forum but I am just not letting someone call me a liar unprovoked and start making random long lists of points attacking me for no reason get the last word in. Also I have to admit I would be absolutely raging if Leeds somehow had to pay this
I will consider this put to bed now. On to Wolves.