Leeds have picked up 93 yellow cards this season and are just two away from setting a new Premier League record for the most bookings by a club in a single season.
Sunderland currently hold that record (94) set in 2014/15.
Firpo (9)
Rodrigo (8)
James (7)
Llorente (7)
Struijk (6)
Raphinha (6)
Forshaw (5)
Dallas (5)
Roberts (5)
Shackleton (4)
Gelhardt (4)
Cooper (4)
Ayling (4)
Klich (4)
Harrison (3)
Koch (3)
Meslier (2)
Phillips (2)
Bamford (2)
Cresswell/Drameh/Kenneh (1)
Who’s a naughty boy
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I actually do not think it is “Dirty dirty Leeds”, but more an expression that many of our players play faster than their technique allows. And then especially a couple of Dan James' warnings are pretty unsympathetic, I think.
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Interesting enough but it strikes me that so many of the Yellow cards are for rank stupidity (e.g. Firpo for kicking the ball away and Kenneh for some misdemeanor on the Subs bench) or silly bookings.NottinghamWhite wrote:Leeds have picked up 93 yellow cards this season and are just two away from setting a new Premier League record for the most bookings by a club in a single season.
Sunderland currently hold that record (94) set in 2014/15.
Firpo (9)
Rodrigo (8)
James (7)
Llorente (7)
Struijk (6)
Raphinha (6)
Forshaw (5)
Dallas (5)
Roberts (5)
Shackleton (4)
Gelhardt (4)
Cooper (4)
Ayling (4)
Klich (4)
Harrison (3)
Koch (3)
Meslier (2)
Phillips (2)
Bamford (2)
Cresswell/Drameh/Kenneh (1)
I have to say that Firpo's indiscipline is ridiculous given the number of games he's managed to play for us and I can't imagine why Rodrigo is at the top end of the list as he isn't one to be sticking his foot in very often or a player who is likely to be booked for dissent.
Also I wonder if this kind of a thing would have been of concern to Marcelo Bielsa
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Not saying it's the case here, but it can be a sign that the players are out of their depth and need to either up their game or go down a division for a while.
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So what are you saying?Gascoigne wrote:Not saying it's the case here, but it can be a sign that the players are out of their depth and need to either up their game or go down a division for a while.
A few of those near the top of the list would likely leave if we went down.
To me it shows they are still committed to the cause.
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Committed cos they got a booking?The Fonz wrote:So what are you saying?Gascoigne wrote:Not saying it's the case here, but it can be a sign that the players are out of their depth and need to either up their game or go down a division for a while.
A few of those near the top of the list would likely leave if we went down.
To me it shows they are still committed to the cause.
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I'm saying what I've just said.The Fonz wrote:So what are you saying?Gascoigne wrote:Not saying it's the case here, but it can be a sign that the players are out of their depth and need to either up their game or go down a division for a while.
A few of those near the top of the list would likely leave if we went down.
To me it shows they are still committed to the cause.
To repeat:
I'm not saying it is the case here, but it can be a sign that they are out of their depth.
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You're missing the point you have said what you are not saying is the reason but was interested in why you think our disciplinary record looks poor.Gascoigne wrote:I'm saying what I've just said.The Fonz wrote:So what are you saying?Gascoigne wrote:Not saying it's the case here, but it can be a sign that the players are out of their depth and need to either up their game or go down a division for a while.
A few of those near the top of the list would likely leave if we went down.
To me it shows they are still committed to the cause.
To repeat:
I'm not saying it is the case here, but it can be a sign that they are out of their depth.
For example Firpo got booked today and I'm sure some will criticise but for me he took one for the team as they player was away. Pleased he fouled the player they are not so quick without their legs.
Compare that to Struijk getting sent off against Liverpool, not even a foul was sent of due to the severity of the injury.
Same thing Grealish breaking Dallas leg yet he wasn't sent off which was the right decision in my view as it was two committed players coming together.
But Struijk red card shows on our record.
Quite a few of the bookings are for goal celebrations, silly way for racking up points but players at certain clubs get away with it.
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Factor [X] can be present in [Y] phenomenon.The Fonz wrote:You're missing the point you have said what you are not saying is the reason but was interested in why you think our disciplinary record looks poor.Gascoigne wrote:I'm saying what I've just said.The Fonz wrote:So what are you saying?Gascoigne wrote:Not saying it's the case here, but it can be a sign that the players are out of their depth and need to either up their game or go down a division for a while.
A few of those near the top of the list would likely leave if we went down.
To me it shows they are still committed to the cause.
To repeat:
I'm not saying it is the case here, but it can be a sign that they are out of their depth.
For example Firpo got booked today and I'm sure some will criticise but for me he took one for the team as they player was away. Pleased he fouled the player they are not so quick without their legs.
Compare that to Struijk getting sent off against Liverpool, not even a foul was sent of due to the severity of the injury.
Same thing Grealish breaking Dallas leg yet he wasn't sent off which was the right decision in my view as it was two committed players coming together.
But Struijk red card shows on our record.
Quite a few of the bookings are for goal celebrations, silly way for racking up points but players at certain clubs get away with it.
Y phenomenon is present.
I don't know if X explains it in this case.
I merely note that X can be an explanation for Y.
Not sure what point you think I'm missing in giving your examples. Factor X can be accompanied by factors A, B, C and D, or W, M, K and F.
I repeat that if lots of players in a side are picking up a disciplinary record, it could be because they aren't ready to play at that level. But I only say it is one possible factor. I don't say it is a factor here, because I simply don't know. I merely say that, in general, it sometimes is (perhaps accompanied by other factors/reasons) and therefore it's worth considering, alongside other things.
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It's just a game of football.Gascoigne wrote:Factor [X] can be present in [Y] phenomenon.The Fonz wrote:You're missing the point you have said what you are not saying is the reason but was interested in why you think our disciplinary record looks poor.Gascoigne wrote:I'm saying what I've just said.The Fonz wrote:So what are you saying?Gascoigne wrote:Not saying it's the case here, but it can be a sign that the players are out of their depth and need to either up their game or go down a division for a while.
A few of those near the top of the list would likely leave if we went down.
To me it shows they are still committed to the cause.
To repeat:
I'm not saying it is the case here, but it can be a sign that they are out of their depth.
For example Firpo got booked today and I'm sure some will criticise but for me he took one for the team as they player was away. Pleased he fouled the player they are not so quick without their legs.
Compare that to Struijk getting sent off against Liverpool, not even a foul was sent of due to the severity of the injury.
Same thing Grealish breaking Dallas leg yet he wasn't sent off which was the right decision in my view as it was two committed players coming together.
But Struijk red card shows on our record.
Quite a few of the bookings are for goal celebrations, silly way for racking up points but players at certain clubs get away with it.
Y phenomenon is present.
I don't know if X explains it in this case.
I merely note that X can be an explanation for Y.
Not sure what point you think I'm missing in giving your examples. Factor X can be accompanied by factors A, B, C and D, or W, M, K and F.
I repeat that if lots of players in a side are picking up a disciplinary record, it could be because they aren't ready to play at that level. But I only say it is one possible factor. I don't say it is a factor here, because I simply don't know. I merely say that, in general, it sometimes is (perhaps accompanied by other factors/reasons) and therefore it's worth considering, alongside other things.
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