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Forshaw on Radio

Postby Davycc » 31 Dec 2019, 15:02

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Re: Forshaw on Radio

Postby johnnysmiles » 31 Dec 2019, 16:18

Interesting that they have discussions on articles in the news (when pressed for an example, Forshaw said it might be about a particular player, but I kind of got the impression that it could be about anything)... it's almost as if Bielsa sees his management role as beyond football...

I was happy to have Bielsa, but, if I'm honest, at the time I was worried that he hadn't won anything, and suggested that Bruce or Allardyce might be better choices.... now, even if we don't go up, I'll be sad when the day comes when he leaves us....
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Re: Forshaw on Radio

Postby Selby White » 31 Dec 2019, 16:35

johnnysmiles wrote:Interesting that they have discussions on articles in the news (when pressed for an example, Forshaw said it might be about a particular player, but I kind of got the impression that it could be about anything)... it's almost as if Bielsa sees his management role as beyond football...

I was happy to have Bielsa, but, if I'm honest, at the time I was worried that he hadn't won anything, and suggested that Bruce or Allardyce might be better choices.... now, even if we don't go up, I'll be sad when the day comes when he leaves us....


Know what you mean about not winning much but when you scratch below the surface virtually all the clubs he's managed are not regular winners in their respective leagues. He has improved all of them and loved wherever he's been.

I'm sure he would have won plenty if he had managed the likes of Real, Barca, Juventos, Bayern, PSG, Celtic, ajax, etc with their unlimited resources (compared to others in the same leagues). The so called great managers that only go to these Clubs building a CV would not be fit to lace MB's boots, a great man in many aspects.
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Re: Forshaw on Radio

Postby isrodger » 31 Dec 2019, 16:52

Selby White wrote:
johnnysmiles wrote:Interesting that they have discussions on articles in the news (when pressed for an example, Forshaw said it might be about a particular player, but I kind of got the impression that it could be about anything)... it's almost as if Bielsa sees his management role as beyond football...

I was happy to have Bielsa, but, if I'm honest, at the time I was worried that he hadn't won anything, and suggested that Bruce or Allardyce might be better choices.... now, even if we don't go up, I'll be sad when the day comes when he leaves us....


Know what you mean about not winning much but when you scratch below the surface virtually all the clubs he's managed are not regular winners in their respective leagues. He has improved all of them and loved wherever he's been.

I'm sure he would have won plenty if he had managed the likes of Real, Barca, Juventos, Bayern, PSG, Celtic, ajax, etc with their unlimited resources (compared to others in the same leagues). The so called great managers that only go to these Clubs building a CV would not be fit to lace MB's boots, a great man in many aspects.


I knew of bielsa prior to his appointment, how highly he was regarded, however shared concerns he would be a success. I do feel he would struggle going into a established club, for 2 reasons. 1. He’s not prepared to compromise in order to win. 2. His man management is questionable. The primary example of this is the departure of Pontus Jansson. Our best centre back of the decade, discarded for a combination of the 2 reasons. I love Bielsa and will rue his departure, but ultimately we need promotion and I couldn’t give a monkeys now as to how it’s achieved.
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Re: Forshaw on Radio

Postby Davycc » 31 Dec 2019, 17:24

isrodger wrote:
I knew of bielsa prior to his appointment, how highly he was regarded, however shared concerns he would be a success. I do feel he would struggle going into a established club, for 2 reasons. 1. He’s not prepared to compromise in order to win. 2. His man management is questionable. The primary example of this is the departure of Pontus Jansson. Our best centre back of the decade, discarded for a combination of the 2 reasons. I love Bielsa and will rue his departure, but ultimately we need promotion and I couldn’t give a monkeys now as to how it’s achieved.


His man management seen to be working ok to me. He's managed to improve nearly every man we had.
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Re: Forshaw on Radio

Postby Deleted User 5081 » 31 Dec 2019, 17:31

I knew of him too, never believed he would come to LUFC at the time but he did. The fact he came here saya volumes about the belief in his system albeit it frustrating at times. I do however believe this is our year. I dont believe he will stay on though. He wants to be remembered here and will leave after his contract is up. My opinion is we would be relegated with or without bielsa of we got promoted anyway unless there was a change of ownership as radz is not ready to splash the cash. Maybe he will sell to PSG owners maybe he wont who knows what 2020 holds for us, but, regardless i believe we will get promotion this year.

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Re: Forshaw on Radio

Postby isrodger » 31 Dec 2019, 19:24

Davycc wrote:
isrodger wrote:
I knew of bielsa prior to his appointment, how highly he was regarded, however shared concerns he would be a success. I do feel he would struggle going into a established club, for 2 reasons. 1. He’s not prepared to compromise in order to win. 2. His man management is questionable. The primary example of this is the departure of Pontus Jansson. Our best centre back of the decade, discarded for a combination of the 2 reasons. I love Bielsa and will rue his departure, but ultimately we need promotion and I couldn’t give a monkeys now as to how it’s achieved.


His man management seen to be working ok to me. He's managed to improve nearly every man we had.


Of course your right, however I honestly don’t believe he could get buy in from players @ a club like Madrid or Man Utd. It’s his way or the highway, player power being what it is I could seeing being a similar scenario to Clough @ Leeds.
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