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Selby White wrote:39pts is one of the higher if not the highest total to be relegated for a long time.Nic wrote: Newly promoted Blackpool in 2010-11 were in 10th spot after 16 games with 22 points, but ended up being relegated in 19th with 39 points.
Mind you 17 from final 22 games is under 1 PPG, so long as we achieve that low target we'll be fine.
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That averages out to 35.6pts over the last 23 seasons or 34.7 over the last 10 seasons.... so using Nic's excellent table, we'd need 0.55PPG for the rest of the season, which is about what WBA are averaging currently
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That is a good figure to read, we really would need to blow up to get relegated.ayearinmx wrote:That averages out to 35.6pts over the last 23 seasons or 34.7 over the last 10 seasons.... so using Nic's excellent table, we'd need 0.55PPG for the rest of the season, which is about what WBA are averaging currently
Given the number of points the bottom teams have accumulated so far along with the high number of teams chasing European spots I've a feeling it will be a record low required possibly 30 to 32 pts.
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We now need to do it for winning the league (which in future seasons will be the only one we bother with). I would volunteer but my brain hurts.
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Just as we were relying on youjohnh wrote: I would volunteer but my brain hurts.
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Even 1PPG would put us in the high 30's and most likely be enough. The bottom two teams are the most likely to go down, so it is only the third spot that could well change.Selby White wrote:That is a good figure to read, we really would need to blow up to get relegated.ayearinmx wrote:That averages out to 35.6pts over the last 23 seasons or 34.7 over the last 10 seasons.... so using Nic's excellent table, we'd need 0.55PPG for the rest of the season, which is about what WBA are averaging currently
Given the number of points the bottom teams have accumulated so far along with the high number of teams chasing European spots I've a feeling it will be a record low required possibly 30 to 32 pts.
Below is the bottom six teams for the past 11 years and where they were after 16 games to give an idea of the points needed (click on for larger version)
Still on course for a finish of above 46 points, so not sure we need to be overly worried about being anywhere near relegation. Just look how we are doing without three players who would be CB, we haven't collapsed.
A result against Spurs today would have been nice, but surely a loss was expected by most. The way we play may mean we get shown up by the top teams, but really it isn't those who we need to worry about, but teams below.
I have a dynamic predictor that says what we should win if say lose to top 8 but win to bottom, so after game GW16 this gave
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Really enjoy statistical side of the game having done Sports coaching back in the day so some excellent stuff in my opinion.
Has anyone access to the players running statistics for our squad and others in the Prem ?
Have seen it for other seasons but can't yet find anything for this year, I know its something clubs record.
Has anyone access to the players running statistics for our squad and others in the Prem ?
Have seen it for other seasons but can't yet find anything for this year, I know its something clubs record.
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Not that I could see on sites such as https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/Premier-League-StatsSelby White wrote:Really enjoy statistical side of the game having done Sports coaching back in the day so some excellent stuff in my opinion.
Has anyone access to the players running statistics for our squad and others in the Prem ?
Have seen it for other seasons but can't yet find anything for this year, I know its something clubs record.
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Interesting comparison of each Club and what its cost in transfers to assemble their squads.
Really shows who is punching above their weight and who are failing miserably.
Have added how many places higher or lower are clubs are currently compared to where they arguably should be based on spending.
Leicester & Leeds 5 places up are best performers.
Arsenal clearly the worst.
Full cost of each 25-man squad in the Premier League
1. Manchester City - £810,870,000 - down 4
2. Manchester United - £628,130,000 - same
3. Chelsea - £577,100,000 - down 5
4. Arsenal - £454,800,000 - down 7
5. Liverpool - £454,250,000 - up 4
6. Everton - £388,050,000 - same
7. Tottenham Hotspur - £385,300,000 - up 3
8. Leicester City - £317,450,000 - up 5
9. Wolverhampton Wanderers - £241,980,000 - down 4
10. Aston Villa - £229,350,000 - up 3
11. West Ham United - £218,500,000 - down 1
12. Newcastle United - £198,100,000 - down 3
13. Southampton - £170,550,000 - up 4
14. Brighton & Hove Albion - £159,100,000 - down 3
15. Crystal Palace - £149,860,000 - up 1
16. Sheffield United - £120,700,000 - down 4
17. Leeds United - £120,300,000 - up 5
18. West Bromwich Albion - £97,700,000 - down 1
19. Fulham - £94,350,000 - up 1
20. Burnley - £82,600,000 - up 4
Really shows who is punching above their weight and who are failing miserably.
Have added how many places higher or lower are clubs are currently compared to where they arguably should be based on spending.
Leicester & Leeds 5 places up are best performers.
Arsenal clearly the worst.
Full cost of each 25-man squad in the Premier League
1. Manchester City - £810,870,000 - down 4
2. Manchester United - £628,130,000 - same
3. Chelsea - £577,100,000 - down 5
4. Arsenal - £454,800,000 - down 7
5. Liverpool - £454,250,000 - up 4
6. Everton - £388,050,000 - same
7. Tottenham Hotspur - £385,300,000 - up 3
8. Leicester City - £317,450,000 - up 5
9. Wolverhampton Wanderers - £241,980,000 - down 4
10. Aston Villa - £229,350,000 - up 3
11. West Ham United - £218,500,000 - down 1
12. Newcastle United - £198,100,000 - down 3
13. Southampton - £170,550,000 - up 4
14. Brighton & Hove Albion - £159,100,000 - down 3
15. Crystal Palace - £149,860,000 - up 1
16. Sheffield United - £120,700,000 - down 4
17. Leeds United - £120,300,000 - up 5
18. West Bromwich Albion - £97,700,000 - down 1
19. Fulham - £94,350,000 - up 1
20. Burnley - £82,600,000 - up 4
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